The Presocratic Philosophers by Jonathan Barnes: A Review

Last Updated: September 2026. Added the section on the anachronism objection and the note distinguishing this book from the Kirk, Raven and Schofield sourcebook.

Quick Answer

Barnes takes the earliest Greek philosophers, rebuilds what they said as arguments with numbered premises, and asks whether the arguments actually work. The result is the book that makes these people feel like opponents you could argue with rather than curiosities in a museum. The objection is that they never wrote in that form, and it is a real objection.

Key Takeaways

  • This is not the sourcebook. Kirk, Raven and Schofield published a different book with nearly the same title, and people buy the wrong one constantly.
  • The method is formalisation. Premises numbered, conclusion stated, validity checked, missing steps supplied and flagged.
  • The Zeno chapters are worth the price alone, and are among the clearest treatments of the paradoxes anywhere.
  • The anachronism charge is serious and Barnes has an answer to it that is worth weighing rather than dismissing.
  • The word Presocratic is wrong, and knowing why tells you something about how the history of philosophy got written.

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What This Book Is

Jonathan Barnes, born in 1942, is one of the most formidable scholars of ancient philosophy of the past half century, an editor of the revised Oxford translation of Aristotle and the author of books on scepticism, on Aristotle, and on ancient logic. The Presocratic Philosophers appeared in two volumes in 1979 in Routledge's Arguments of the Philosophers series and was reissued in a revised single volume in 1982.

It covers the earliest Greek philosophers, from Thales in the sixth century BC through Anaximander, Anaximenes, Pythagoras, Xenophanes, Heraclitus, Parmenides, Zeno, Melissus, Empedocles, Anaxagoras, the atomists Leucippus and Democritus, and the Sophists.

The series title is the giveaway. This is a book about arguments, and its governing question is not what these people believed but whether they had good reasons for believing it.

Buy the right book. Kirk, Raven and Schofield produced a Cambridge volume called The Presocratic Philosophers, whose second edition appeared in 1983. That one is a sourcebook: Greek texts, translations, commentary. Barnes's is a work of philosophical analysis. The titles are effectively identical, both are standard, and they do completely different jobs. Check the author before ordering.

What Makes It Different

The dominant approach to early Greek thought for much of the twentieth century placed it in context: the transition from myth to reason, the influence of Near Eastern cosmology, the political conditions of the Ionian cities, the religious background of purification cults and mystery rites. That tradition produced excellent work and it treats the fragments as cultural documents.

Barnes does something else. He asks what claim is being made, what would support it, whether the support is adequate, and whether the conclusion follows. Then he answers.

The consequence is that his Presocratics are not primitive. They are colleagues, separated by two and a half thousand years, making moves that can be evaluated by the same standards you would apply to a paper written last month. Some of them turn out to be very good. Some turn out to have made mistakes that are identifiable and interesting.

This is more radical than it sounds. A great deal of writing about early philosophy is admiring in a way that never quite commits to whether the reasoning is sound, and the effect of that admiration is faintly patronising. Barnes does not do it.

What the Method Looks Like on the Page

In practice, a typical passage runs like this. Barnes quotes a fragment or a report. He identifies the conclusion being drawn. He sets out the premises required to reach it, numbered. He notes which of those premises are actually attested and which he has supplied to make the inference work. He then asks whether the argument is valid, and separately whether the premises are true, and separately again whether the philosopher could have had good grounds for the premises given what was available to know at the time.

The care about supplied premises is what makes this defensible. Barnes is not pretending Heraclitus wrote a numbered proof. He is saying that if the conclusion is to follow, something like this must be assumed, and here is what it would be, and here is whether that assumption is reasonable.

When the argument fails, he says so. When it succeeds, he says that too, and he is not stingy with praise. The tone throughout is that of someone reading a colleague's work closely because they think it deserves close reading.

Anaximander and the Argument From Indifference

The clearest illustration of what the method recovers is Anaximander on why the earth does not fall.

Earlier answers were physical. Thales said the earth floats on water. Anaximenes said it rides on air. Both replies invite the obvious follow-up, which is what holds up the water.

Anaximander said the earth stays where it is because it is at the centre, equally distant from everything, and there is no reason for it to move in one direction rather than another. Having no reason to go anywhere, it goes nowhere.

Barnes takes this seriously as a piece of reasoning, and he is right to. It is an application of what would later be called the principle of sufficient reason, arriving at a physical conclusion by pure inference, roughly two and a half millennia before anyone would have called it that. It also happens to be, in its structure, a better answer than the ones that followed it for a long time afterwards.

A contextual approach can tell you a great deal about Anaximander's Milesian setting and his apeiron, the boundless. Only the argumentative approach makes you sit up and notice that the man had done something genuinely difficult.

This is the case for Barnes's method in one example. Under a purely historical reading, Anaximander's answer is one cosmological opinion among several. Under an argumentative reading, it is a step of a kind that hardly anyone in the ancient world took, and its quality is visible. The method is not neutral, and what it makes visible is worth the cost.

Parmenides Taken Straight

Parmenides is the test case for any book on this material, because he is the one most often handed over to mysticism.

He wrote in hexameter verse, framed as a revelation delivered by a goddess, and concluded that change and plurality are not real. That combination invites treatment as visionary poetry with philosophical decoration.

Barnes will have none of it. He reads the poem as a chain of deduction. What is not cannot be thought or spoken of, since to think is to think of something. Therefore we cannot coherently talk about what does not exist. Therefore coming to be, which requires a transition from not existing to existing, cannot be coherently described. From this he derives the signs: that what is must be ungenerated, imperishable, whole, unmoving and complete.

Barnes reconstructs each step, identifies where the argument turns on an ambiguity in the Greek verb to be, and assesses whether the conclusion survives once the ambiguity is separated out. This is exactly the treatment the argument deserves and it is a great deal more respectful than admiring the poem's atmosphere.

The point generalises. The most demanding Presocratic material, including much of Heraclitus, has been absorbed into contemplative and esoteric reading traditions where its arguments are treated as pointers rather than as claims. Both readings are possible. Only one of them tells you whether the man was right.

Zeno's Paradoxes

If you buy this book for one thing, buy it for the treatment of Zeno, where the analytic approach does work nothing else can do.

Zeno's paradoxes are arguments. Achilles cannot catch the tortoise because he must first reach where it was, by which time it has moved. The arrow in flight, at every instant, occupies a space equal to itself and is therefore at rest. A body must traverse half a distance before the whole, and half of that before the half, so motion cannot begin.

The popular treatment says the calculus solved these by showing an infinite series can have a finite sum. Barnes shows that this answers some versions and not others, and, more usefully, he shows precisely which premise each solution has to deny and what that denial commits you to. The arrow paradox in particular is not disposed of by summing a series, because it concerns what is true at an instant, and instants have no duration in which motion could occur.

This is philosophy done properly on material that is usually handled as a party trick, and it is the section most likely to convert a sceptical reader to the whole approach.

The Atomists

Leucippus and Democritus proposed that everything is composed of indivisible bodies moving in void, and that all apparent qualities arise from the arrangement and motion of those bodies.

The temptation is to congratulate them for anticipating modern physics, and Barnes resists it firmly, which is the right call. Their atoms are not our atoms, their reasons for positing them were not empirical in our sense, and the resemblance is largely verbal.

What he does instead is show why they proposed it, which is far more interesting. Atomism is a response to Parmenides. If Parmenides has shown that what is cannot come to be or perish, but the world plainly changes, then the way out is to accept the Parmenidean requirement for the fundamental things while explaining change as rearrangement. Atoms are ungenerated, imperishable and unchanging, exactly as Parmenides demanded; what changes is only how they are put together.

Seen that way, atomism is not a lucky guess about physics. It is a precisely engineered solution to a logical problem, and the argumentative approach is what makes that visible.

Barnes also takes seriously Democritus's own worry, preserved in a fragment, in which the senses complain to the intellect that it is overthrowing them with evidence borrowed from them. That is a sharp epistemological objection and it is still live.

The Sophists Get a Hearing

The Sophists have been in disgrace since Plato, who had reasons of his own, and the word sophistry carries the verdict.

Barnes gives them the same treatment as everyone else, which turns out to be a rehabilitation. Protagoras's claim that man is the measure of all things is examined as a thesis about relativism with identifiable strengths and a specific self-referential problem. Gorgias's argument that nothing exists, that if anything existed it could not be known, and that if it could be known it could not be communicated, is set out as a chain of reasoning rather than dismissed as showmanship.

Whether Gorgias meant it is a real question and Barnes discusses it. What he refuses to do is decide the philosophical merits on the basis of Plato's opinion of the man's motives.

The Anachronism Objection

The criticism of Barnes is serious and any honest review has to make it properly.

These writers did not produce arguments in the form Barnes reconstructs. Parmenides wrote hexameter verse framed as divine revelation. Heraclitus wrote aphorisms of studied obscurity and deposited his book in a temple. Empedocles wrote poems that mix physics with an account of the soul's exile and purification. Pythagoras founded something closer to a religious order than a school.

None of them had a concept of a formal argument. Logic as a discipline begins with Aristotle, after all of them. To rebuild their words as premise-and-conclusion structures is to impose a technology they did not have, and there is a real risk of finding arguments that were never made and grading them against standards nobody could have been aiming at.

There is a further loss. Strip the religious, political and poetic context out of Empedocles and you lose the fact that his physics and his doctrine of the fallen daimon are one work by one man. The contextual scholars are not being sentimental when they insist on this. They are pointing at something that was there.

Barnes's reply, which he makes explicitly, is that these people were reasoning, that reasoning can be assessed, and that refusing to assess it in favour of appreciating its cultural setting is condescension dressed as respect. Taking an argument seriously enough to say that it fails treats its author as a thinker. Admiring it as an expression of the archaic Greek mind does not.

Both positions are defensible and the honest conclusion is that you need both books on the shelf. Barnes will tell you whether the reasoning holds. He will not tell you what it was like to be the person doing it.

The Problem With the Evidence Itself

Underneath both approaches sits a difficulty that applies to everything written about these thinkers.

Almost no complete work by any of them survives. What we have are quotations preserved by later writers, some of them many centuries later. Aristotle is a major source and he read his predecessors as anticipations of his own scheme. Simplicius, writing in the sixth century AD, preserved a great deal and had his own commitments. Some quotations are paraphrase presented as citation. Some were preserved specifically in order to be refuted.

The standard numbering comes from Diels and Kranz, whose Die Fragmente der Vorsokratiker organised the material into testimonia and verbatim fragments and imposed a structure that scholars used for a century. The nine-volume Loeb Early Greek Philosophy, edited by André Laks and Glenn Most and published in 2016, reorganises the whole corpus on different principles and is now the fullest modern presentation.

The consequence for Barnes is direct. When he formalises an argument, the text he is formalising has often already been reconstructed by editors from hostile witnesses. The layers of interpretation are deeper than the numbered premises make them look, and readers should hold that in view.

The Word Presocratic Is Wrong

It is worth knowing why the standard term is a problem, because the reason is instructive.

Democritus was younger than Socrates and outlived him. Several of the Sophists were his contemporaries and appear as characters in Plato's dialogues. Calling them all pre-Socratic groups a diverse set of thinkers by the fact of not being one particular Athenian.

The label encodes a story in which early Greek thought was preparatory, a run-up to the moment philosophy turned to ethics in Athens and became itself. That story comes largely from Aristotle and from the tradition that followed him, and it flattens people working on cosmology, mathematics, medicine, religion and language into precursors.

Many scholars now write early Greek philosophy instead, which is why the Laks and Most Loeb uses that title. The change is small and the correction behind it is not.

Which Books to Own Alongside

Kirk, Raven and Schofield is the sourcebook. Greek text, translation, and commentary, second edition 1983. If you are going to work with this material at all you need it, and it is the book Barnes assumes you have.

Barnes's own Early Greek Philosophy in Penguin Classics is a translated selection with introductions, and it is by far the easiest way in. If you have never read a fragment, start there rather than with the analytical volume.

Laks and Most in the Loeb, nine volumes from 2016, is the fullest modern edition, with Greek and English facing, reorganised and renumbered. It is an investment and it is the current state of the field.

W. K. C. Guthrie's A History of Greek Philosophy, volumes one and two, gives the older contextual treatment at length and is the best counterweight to Barnes's method.

Our own pieces on the Pythagorean fragments, on Heraclitus and the logos, and on Pythagoras cover the same ground from the reception side, which is where most readers first meet these names.

Who Should Read It

Read it if you have encountered the Presocratics through esoteric or contemplative writing and want to know whether the arguments hold up. A great deal of what circulates about Heraclitus, Pythagoras and Empedocles in that literature is downstream of Neoplatonic readings, and Barnes is the cleanest available corrective.

Read it if you like watching a first-rate mind work carefully on difficult material. The prose is dry, precise and occasionally very funny.

Read it if you want the earliest philosophy to be philosophy rather than heritage.

Do not read it first. Read the fragments themselves, in Barnes's Penguin or in Kirk, Raven and Schofield, and form your own impression before someone hands you a numbered reconstruction. Do not read it expecting the religious and mystical dimension of these thinkers to be honoured, because it is largely set aside. And do not read it as the last word, because the field has moved since 1982 and the contextual scholars have a case that this book does not answer.

There is something worth taking from the method itself, independent of ancient Greece. Barnes's discipline is to state what somebody is actually claiming, set out what would have to be true for the claim to follow, and then check. Applied to a fragment of Heraclitus it produces scholarship. Applied to the next confident thing you read about consciousness, or health, or history, it produces something more useful, which is the ability to tell the difference between a claim that has been argued and one that has merely been asserted beautifully. Most of what circulates is the second kind, and the beauty is doing the work the argument should be doing.

Twenty-five centuries later, and their arguments still have to answer for themselves.

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Frequently Asked Questions

What is Barnes's The Presocratic Philosophers?

A study of the earliest Greek philosophers, published in two volumes in 1979 and reissued in a revised single volume in 1982, in Routledge's Arguments of the Philosophers series. It treats each thinker as someone advancing arguments, reconstructs those arguments explicitly, and assesses whether they are valid and whether the premises are true.

Is it a collection of the fragments?

No, and this catches people out. It is a work of philosophical analysis that quotes the fragments as needed. Kirk, Raven and Schofield published a sourcebook under almost exactly the same title, and that one gives the Greek with commentary. Buying the wrong one is the most common mistake in this corner of the bookshelf.

What is distinctive about Barnes's method?

He sets out arguments as numbered premises leading to conclusions, then tests them the way you would test any argument. Where a step is missing he supplies the most plausible one and says he is doing so. The effect is that these thinkers stop being quaint precursors and become people you can disagree with.

What is the argument from indifference?

Anaximander's explanation of why the earth does not fall. It sits at the centre of everything, equidistant from all points, and there is no reason for it to move in one direction rather than another, so it stays put. Barnes rates it highly because it explains a physical fact by pure reasoning rather than by a supporting substance.

How does Barnes treat Parmenides?

As an extremely serious argument rather than a mystical pronouncement. Parmenides claims that what is not cannot be thought or spoken of, and derives from that a set of consequences about what exists. Barnes reconstructs the deduction step by step and takes the challenge it poses to ordinary belief entirely straight.

What about Zeno's paradoxes?

This is where the analytic method pays off most clearly. Barnes lays out each paradox as an argument, identifies exactly which premise a solution has to reject, and shows that the standard mathematical answers dissolve some versions while leaving others intact. It is among the best short treatments available.

What is the main criticism of the book?

Anachronism. These writers composed hexameter poems, prophetic aphorisms and cosmological accounts inside a religious and political culture, without any concept of a formalised argument. Reconstructing them as premise-and-conclusion structures may impose a shape they never had and discard the context that gave the words meaning.

What is Barnes's defence of his approach?

That these people were reasoning, that reasoning can be assessed, and that declining to assess it in order to admire the cultural setting is a form of condescension. Taking someone's argument seriously enough to say it fails is more respectful than treating it as an interesting artefact of its period.

Why is the term Presocratic misleading?

Because several of the thinkers it covers were contemporaries of Socrates or younger than him, Democritus most obviously. The label groups people by not being Socrates, which implies that early Greek thought was a run-up to Athens. Many scholars now prefer early Greek philosophy for that reason.

How reliable are the fragments themselves?

Variable and often poor. Almost nothing survives in a complete work. What we have was quoted by later authors, some of them centuries later, frequently while arguing against the person quoted, and sometimes paraphrasing rather than citing. Any reconstruction is therefore built on evidence that has passed through interested hands.

What should I own alongside it?

Kirk, Raven and Schofield for the texts with Greek and commentary. Barnes's own Penguin volume Early Greek Philosophy for an accessible translated selection. The Loeb Early Greek Philosophy edited by Laks and Most, in nine volumes from 2016, if you want the fullest modern presentation of the evidence.

Who should read Barnes?

Anyone who wants to know whether the earliest philosophers were any good as reasoners rather than simply what they said. It is demanding but not technical, requires no Greek and no logic training, and it is the book that makes these thinkers feel like opponents rather than exhibits.

Number the premises

Take one saying you have carried around for years, from any tradition, and do to it what Barnes does. Write the conclusion. Write what would have to be true for it to follow. Mark which of those you actually have reason to believe and which you have been supplying without noticing. Most cherished sayings survive this and come out sharper. A few do not, and finding out which is which is worth more than another year of agreeing with them.

Sources & References

  • Barnes, J. (1979, revised 1982). The Presocratic Philosophers. Routledge and Kegan Paul, Arguments of the Philosophers series.
  • Barnes, J., trans. Early Greek Philosophy. Penguin Classics.
  • Kirk, G. S., Raven, J. E., and Schofield, M. (1983). The Presocratic Philosophers, 2nd edition. Cambridge University Press.
  • Laks, A., and Most, G. W., eds. (2016). Early Greek Philosophy, 9 vols. Loeb Classical Library.
  • Diels, H., and Kranz, W. Die Fragmente der Vorsokratiker, the standard numbering used for a century.
  • Guthrie, W. K. C. A History of Greek Philosophy, vols. 1 and 2. Cambridge University Press.
  • Aristotle and Simplicius, the principal ancient sources through which most fragments were preserved.
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